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	<title>Comments on: The Plastic Plan: Energy from Plastic Bottles</title>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-9058</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is an amazing idea. I wonder how viable this idea really is. I think that this shows that there are so many different ways to recycle and reuse plastic bottles that will actually benefit our environment in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is an amazing idea. I wonder how viable this idea really is. I think that this shows that there are so many different ways to recycle and reuse plastic bottles that will actually benefit our environment in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>technotard: thanks for the info. (nice user name!)

I suppose I was incorrect in what I said... UV does damage and change plastics, but not break it down (aka biodegrade).

I don&#039;t know much about all the plastics and all the technology out there in the world, but I have heard of and seen pyroplast incinerators that turn thousands of tons of garbage into a small pile of dust and plasma incinerators that reduce thousands of tons of garbage into a small pile of carbon.  Both processes create hydrogen and other gases which can then be used to run generators which produce electricity.  The resulting emissions are significantly less toxic that normal garbage incinerators/furnaces.

I look forward to learning more about plastics and ways to recycle/reuse them to keep them out of the ocean and landfills.

Thanks again for the info, technotard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>technotard: thanks for the info. (nice user name!)</p>
<p>I suppose I was incorrect in what I said&#8230; UV does damage and change plastics, but not break it down (aka biodegrade).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about all the plastics and all the technology out there in the world, but I have heard of and seen pyroplast incinerators that turn thousands of tons of garbage into a small pile of dust and plasma incinerators that reduce thousands of tons of garbage into a small pile of carbon.  Both processes create hydrogen and other gases which can then be used to run generators which produce electricity.  The resulting emissions are significantly less toxic that normal garbage incinerators/furnaces.</p>
<p>I look forward to learning more about plastics and ways to recycle/reuse them to keep them out of the ocean and landfills.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the info, technotard.</p>
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		<title>By: technotard</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7889</link>
		<dc:creator>technotard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien: To add to my comment ~ I just discovered that they have just developed a method of recycling plastics as the main ingredient in concrete rather than gravel. This would not work if it was effected by UV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien: To add to my comment ~ I just discovered that they have just developed a method of recycling plastics as the main ingredient in concrete rather than gravel. This would not work if it was effected by UV.</p>
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		<title>By: technotard</title>
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		<dc:creator>technotard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien: I hate to shoot down your comment BUT ~ there are thousands of types of plastic and unfortunately, it is only a very small percentage that dissolve in UV light.

1. They are working on making plastic bags from the types that do dissolve in UV so that they will disappear in the future when placed in landfills.

2. For over 3 decades, I have been building structures from plastics, including the largest solar structure in the U.S., none of which have any sign of degradation. In fact, the materials I use outlast conventional roofing materials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien: I hate to shoot down your comment BUT ~ there are thousands of types of plastic and unfortunately, it is only a very small percentage that dissolve in UV light.</p>
<p>1. They are working on making plastic bags from the types that do dissolve in UV so that they will disappear in the future when placed in landfills.</p>
<p>2. For over 3 decades, I have been building structures from plastics, including the largest solar structure in the U.S., none of which have any sign of degradation. In fact, the materials I use outlast conventional roofing materials.</p>
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		<title>By: slaps</title>
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		<dc:creator>slaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of a huge floating island is lots of fun, no matter what.  And the use of win energy to full a large reservoir, so that the island can provide power on demand is also clever. It fills the reservoir when the wind blows, and delivers electricity when it is needed.  Yes, there will be some loss, but it will make a much more practical system, overall.  Plus, by building a tall, sloped structure, as shown, it will increase the effective wind the turbines see.  

But using plastic to build it is just crazy. Build it out of steel and concrete. 

If you want to build a ship out of plastic bottles, start with something smaller, like a kayak.  A large ship has serious stresses and plastic will not handle the job well, especially with a giant reservoir of water on top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of a huge floating island is lots of fun, no matter what.  And the use of win energy to full a large reservoir, so that the island can provide power on demand is also clever. It fills the reservoir when the wind blows, and delivers electricity when it is needed.  Yes, there will be some loss, but it will make a much more practical system, overall.  Plus, by building a tall, sloped structure, as shown, it will increase the effective wind the turbines see.  </p>
<p>But using plastic to build it is just crazy. Build it out of steel and concrete. </p>
<p>If you want to build a ship out of plastic bottles, start with something smaller, like a kayak.  A large ship has serious stresses and plastic will not handle the job well, especially with a giant reservoir of water on top.</p>
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		<title>By: adrien</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7867</link>
		<dc:creator>adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is common knowledge that plastics break down when they are exposed to ultra-violet light, so these platforms would soon disintegrate into useless fragments of sea-borne pollution. 

Nice try, no cigar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is common knowledge that plastics break down when they are exposed to ultra-violet light, so these platforms would soon disintegrate into useless fragments of sea-borne pollution. </p>
<p>Nice try, no cigar.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gulf coast is the perfect location? I can&#039;t imagine this thing surviving hurricanes. 

If we&#039;re using energy to create a gradient that produces energy, we will likely end up with less energy than we started with through the inefficiency of each process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gulf coast is the perfect location? I can&#8217;t imagine this thing surviving hurricanes. </p>
<p>If we&#8217;re using energy to create a gradient that produces energy, we will likely end up with less energy than we started with through the inefficiency of each process.</p>
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		<title>By: Dillonf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dillonf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plastic bottles are a huge source of stored energy.  Why go to all the trouble of building an offshore structure for some indeterminate use when we can use that energy in a non-incinerating waste to energy gasification process?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plastic bottles are a huge source of stored energy.  Why go to all the trouble of building an offshore structure for some indeterminate use when we can use that energy in a non-incinerating waste to energy gasification process?</p>
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		<title>By: rkrush</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7113</link>
		<dc:creator>rkrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea in theory but not very practical.  Besides the fact that the plastic is broken down by UV, has anyone really thought through the scenario of a hurricane force storm hitting this structure?  This would be a disaster waiting to happen.  Then see what the environmentalists would say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea in theory but not very practical.  Besides the fact that the plastic is broken down by UV, has anyone really thought through the scenario of a hurricane force storm hitting this structure?  This would be a disaster waiting to happen.  Then see what the environmentalists would say.</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7105</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you going to the trouble to pick up all the plastic bottles from the landfill why not just recycle them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you going to the trouble to pick up all the plastic bottles from the landfill why not just recycle them?</p>
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		<title>By: Eles</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7099</link>
		<dc:creator>Eles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine idea! Now it is necessary to use plastic dust which has accumulated in Pacific ocean - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch. There will be a double benefit - and the ocean will be cleared of plastic and the net energy will be produced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine idea! Now it is necessary to use plastic dust which has accumulated in Pacific ocean &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch</a>. There will be a double benefit &#8211; and the ocean will be cleared of plastic and the net energy will be produced.</p>
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		<title>By: ewan</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7057</link>
		<dc:creator>ewan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a great idea in my opinion, the mooring needed to support a floating structure that size is non-existent, plus the reshaping of bottles surely suggests you should just go 100% and recycle them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a great idea in my opinion, the mooring needed to support a floating structure that size is non-existent, plus the reshaping of bottles surely suggests you should just go 100% and recycle them.</p>
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		<title>By: Beebear</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7055</link>
		<dc:creator>Beebear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been told that it is not a good idea to re-use plastic bottles as they break down and release carcinogens (Cancer causing chemicals). Would this scheme cause carcinogens to be released into the sea?? This would contaminate a large part of our food chain. 

Having said that the basic premise of building off shore platforms to house such things as solar or wind generation is a good one I just think the material used for construction needs very careful thought</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been told that it is not a good idea to re-use plastic bottles as they break down and release carcinogens (Cancer causing chemicals). Would this scheme cause carcinogens to be released into the sea?? This would contaminate a large part of our food chain. </p>
<p>Having said that the basic premise of building off shore platforms to house such things as solar or wind generation is a good one I just think the material used for construction needs very careful thought</p>
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		<title>By: Vilas Khadse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vilas Khadse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea is good one but the scale is too large to sustain.The problems I could assess are:

1) Manpower required to build such structure will be too high.
2) For keeping the plastic bottles together again plastic rope/thread will be necessary which adds to more consumption.
3) Plastic breaks down when exposed to sunlight making the structure unstable in a short time and increasing plastic pollution in seas to a very large extent.
4) The weight of pumps,stored water will increase the speed of degradation of the platform.

Instead of this I suggest number of such kind,but shallow, platforms be made and coupled together with suitable mechanism to harness the potential of sea waves for power generation be made. No doubt this will also add to plastic polution to seas but at least it will be much more long lasting than earlier one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is good one but the scale is too large to sustain.The problems I could assess are:</p>
<p>1) Manpower required to build such structure will be too high.<br />
2) For keeping the plastic bottles together again plastic rope/thread will be necessary which adds to more consumption.<br />
3) Plastic breaks down when exposed to sunlight making the structure unstable in a short time and increasing plastic pollution in seas to a very large extent.<br />
4) The weight of pumps,stored water will increase the speed of degradation of the platform.</p>
<p>Instead of this I suggest number of such kind,but shallow, platforms be made and coupled together with suitable mechanism to harness the potential of sea waves for power generation be made. No doubt this will also add to plastic polution to seas but at least it will be much more long lasting than earlier one.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard M Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard M Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out www.changingworldtech.com.  They have had the capability to change plastics into oil for several years. Only problem is they can&#039;t get anyone to fund the plant that would do the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://www.changingworldtech.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.changingworldtech.com</a>.  They have had the capability to change plastics into oil for several years. Only problem is they can&#8217;t get anyone to fund the plant that would do the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Squires</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7066</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Squires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 01:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plastic is horrid, but there&#039;s some good news in knowing that a microbe now exists that eats plastic, making it biodegrade at an exponentially faster rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plastic is horrid, but there&#8217;s some good news in knowing that a microbe now exists that eats plastic, making it biodegrade at an exponentially faster rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Schappert</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7065</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Schappert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology is there, the first plant is going up in Georgia as we speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology is there, the first plant is going up in Georgia as we speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Zahira Ameen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zahira Ameen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful concept... getting rid of plastics is easier said than done though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful concept&#8230; getting rid of plastics is easier said than done though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Chambliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Chambliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this idea needs work, but it&#039;s a great one. I support progress in this direction. My vision for this project:  Polar bears are drowning because the ice burgs are melting. Why not create (recycled plastic) habitats for them to &#039;land&#039; on while hunting. Give them a chance; buy some time while we continue to tackle global warming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this idea needs work, but it&#8217;s a great one. I support progress in this direction. My vision for this project:  Polar bears are drowning because the ice burgs are melting. Why not create (recycled plastic) habitats for them to &#8216;land&#8217; on while hunting. Give them a chance; buy some time while we continue to tackle global warming?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Chambliss</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/the-plastic-plan-energy-from-plastic-bottles/#comment-7064</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Chambliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now to get these plastic islands in the arctic where Polar Bears are drowning.</description>
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