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		<title>By: prateek mishra</title>
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		<dc:creator>prateek mishra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is really a mind blowing project. it describe all the expect of power generation by rolling friction which we lost in daily life. no any other method is so sufficient to generate so much power in sort of time.</description>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok.. everyone that says it is impossible to create electricity with no cost to produce it is correct. &quot;NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH&quot;. yes, it takes a lot of thought, money to invest, and even more work to be able to do this. all you idiots that say there is no such thing as perpetual motion need to get over your over educated selves. it is too simple: weight, leverage, and any other pre existing force can be combined and utilized and transfered into mechanical motion/energy. mechanical motion/energy has been used to drive generators, and other equipment
for longer than anyone has been alive. if you guys cant figure that out, then maybe you can just remain in your own negativity, and let someone with common sense get the job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok.. everyone that says it is impossible to create electricity with no cost to produce it is correct. &#8220;NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH&#8221;. yes, it takes a lot of thought, money to invest, and even more work to be able to do this. all you idiots that say there is no such thing as perpetual motion need to get over your over educated selves. it is too simple: weight, leverage, and any other pre existing force can be combined and utilized and transfered into mechanical motion/energy. mechanical motion/energy has been used to drive generators, and other equipment<br />
for longer than anyone has been alive. if you guys cant figure that out, then maybe you can just remain in your own negativity, and let someone with common sense get the job done.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian, your double source method is great. The only disadvantage is that it&#039;s too easy to see from where the energy is coming.

What about this (realistic, btw) setup:
If you live in your own house, you pay water bills for the water you consume and for the pressure of this water but never use this pressure as a source of energy. Put a water tank in the attic and install a turbine so that water will release its energy while filling the tank. The pressure of water from attic is sufficient.
This is the real case of energy harvesting that is lost anyway, and there is no robbery. 
You owe me ice-cream for the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, your double source method is great. The only disadvantage is that it&#8217;s too easy to see from where the energy is coming.</p>
<p>What about this (realistic, btw) setup:<br />
If you live in your own house, you pay water bills for the water you consume and for the pressure of this water but never use this pressure as a source of energy. Put a water tank in the attic and install a turbine so that water will release its energy while filling the tank. The pressure of water from attic is sufficient.<br />
This is the real case of energy harvesting that is lost anyway, and there is no robbery.<br />
You owe me ice-cream for the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian P</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-11066</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for some good technical figuring Kirill and ignoring some emotive posts. Is this worse; Electricity from kinetic energy of dry ice dropped from a suitable height into a novel mechanism perhaps immersed in warm ocean as heat provider to sublimate [release] CO2 as a gas which may drive a turbo-alternator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for some good technical figuring Kirill and ignoring some emotive posts. Is this worse; Electricity from kinetic energy of dry ice dropped from a suitable height into a novel mechanism perhaps immersed in warm ocean as heat provider to sublimate [release] CO2 as a gas which may drive a turbo-alternator.</p>
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		<title>By: mike3121</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike3121</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought of this a few years ago but did nothing about it. A strip of Rochelle salt with a layer of copper mesh on the top and bottom. Encase this all in rubber (or some flexible non conductor). Bury a number of these under the road way. Rochelle salt, when pressure is applied, creates electricity. My experiments showed Rochelle salt just doesn&#039;t produce enough electricity to be of practical value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought of this a few years ago but did nothing about it. A strip of Rochelle salt with a layer of copper mesh on the top and bottom. Encase this all in rubber (or some flexible non conductor). Bury a number of these under the road way. Rochelle salt, when pressure is applied, creates electricity. My experiments showed Rochelle salt just doesn&#8217;t produce enough electricity to be of practical value.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-10862</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update to my first post:
I visited the Innowattech site http://www.innowattech.co.il/techInfo.aspx
Using the additional info: &quot;According to Innowattech&#039;s mathematical model, IPEGs™ have a potential to generate an average of 200 kWh per hour for the highway with traffic of 600 heavy trucks/buses per hour on average&quot;.

Assuming the mass of a truck 10000kg and a bus 6000kg, I tried to make more accurate calculations. I used average mass 8000kg.

600 vehicles per hour means they appear with period T = 6 sec.
Distance between vehicles:
  d = TV = 6 x 80000/3600 = 132m
Number of vehicles per 1000m:
  n = 1000 / d = 1000 / 132 = 7.6
Frr = Crr m g = 0.015 x 8000 x 9.8 = 1176 (N)

The power expended to overcome rolling resistance:

Prr = Frr V = 1176 x 80 x 1000 / 3600 = 26133 (W) = 26 kW

The power collected from one car is P / n = 200 / 7.6 = 26 kW

This means following:

In order to keep fuel consumption intact, all 26kW should be converted to electricity (with efficiency coefficient = 1). Rolling resistance must be = 0, i.e. no tire warming up, no tire wear, no roadway wear.

It is still impossible, sorry Innowattech.
I&#039;ve tried the best to see this technology works as promised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update to my first post:<br />
I visited the Innowattech site <a href="http://www.innowattech.co.il/techInfo.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.innowattech.co.il/techInfo.aspx</a><br />
Using the additional info: &#8220;According to Innowattech&#8217;s mathematical model, IPEGs™ have a potential to generate an average of 200 kWh per hour for the highway with traffic of 600 heavy trucks/buses per hour on average&#8221;.</p>
<p>Assuming the mass of a truck 10000kg and a bus 6000kg, I tried to make more accurate calculations. I used average mass 8000kg.</p>
<p>600 vehicles per hour means they appear with period T = 6 sec.<br />
Distance between vehicles:<br />
  d = TV = 6 x 80000/3600 = 132m<br />
Number of vehicles per 1000m:<br />
  n = 1000 / d = 1000 / 132 = 7.6<br />
Frr = Crr m g = 0.015 x 8000 x 9.8 = 1176 (N)</p>
<p>The power expended to overcome rolling resistance:</p>
<p>Prr = Frr V = 1176 x 80 x 1000 / 3600 = 26133 (W) = 26 kW</p>
<p>The power collected from one car is P / n = 200 / 7.6 = 26 kW</p>
<p>This means following:</p>
<p>In order to keep fuel consumption intact, all 26kW should be converted to electricity (with efficiency coefficient = 1). Rolling resistance must be = 0, i.e. no tire warming up, no tire wear, no roadway wear.</p>
<p>It is still impossible, sorry Innowattech.<br />
I&#8217;ve tried the best to see this technology works as promised.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn, thanks for responding. I see my estimations were too long, and the main message got lost.

I wanted to tell that the engine of a car with the mass 1000 kg driving with the constant speed 80 kmh produces only 3.3 kW to compensate Frr. This 3.3 kW is the maximum power we can utilize without increasing gas consumption. There is no way to get 4.8 kW out of 3.3 kW.
4.8 kW is the power harvested from one car to make this 200 kW per 1000 m of road claim true. This estimate was for the piezo generator efficiency coefficient = 1.
(In reality, if it is 0.5 - 0.7, we&#039;ll need to take about 8 kW instead of 3.3 kW from the car engine which is still not so noticeable).

So my calculation were only to show their claim 200kW per 1000m of single lane without increasing fuel consumption cannot be true.

Potential Energy of gravity cannot be utilized if there is no change in altitude. The gravitational field is a conservative field (see wiki) which means the potential energy difference for a round trip (e.g. from home to work and back) equals 0.

If there was a way to utilize potential energy of a body and the earth that &quot;sucks&quot;, there will be no nead in oil, photovoltaic panels, wind power, etc.

I 100% agree with you, there is no science to back fossil fuel industry. Even nuclear energy (that is well developed and much cheaper) produces less pollution, but oil guys are in power.

When I mentioned swine flu, I meant the forged statistics about the mortality from it. Instead of figures for the swine flu itself, they used combined flu and pneumonia statistics just to make people pay for the vaccine (which appeared to be inefficient and even dangerous, as it contains lead and something else).

About this &quot;researcher has announced a possible future technology&quot;. I watched the innowattech video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-GxSFSy3w, where the guy says &quot;200 kWh per hour&quot;(3:34). I speak and understand Hebrew, and he really said so; it wasn&#039;t a bad translation. A technically educated person would say &quot;200 kW&quot;.

In the video they say &quot;without adversely affecting vehicle fuel efficiency or the durability of roadway&quot; (4:12). Of course, as you noticed, the road durability cannot be the same as in case there are no piezo blocks installed under asphalt. These separate blocks will contribute to cracks production, especially on their borders. For their purposes the words &quot;noticeably&quot; and &quot;adversely&quot; are same.

The technology will be implemented, I think, just because it is a way of making money. Research grants, good deals, etc. Who cares it will lead to increased oil consumption and atmosphere pollution. 

If you are interested in knowing where this &quot;free&quot; energy is coming from (as I see it), I can explain, though it&#039;s not so easy without making drawings and diagrams. I didn&#039;t expect anybody would respond to my post, but it&#039;s hard to keep silent when I see something is going wrong.

When I tried to post a similar comment on innowattech channel, they simply moderated it out without proving I&#039;m wrong. It&#039;s an indication they have no objections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn, thanks for responding. I see my estimations were too long, and the main message got lost.</p>
<p>I wanted to tell that the engine of a car with the mass 1000 kg driving with the constant speed 80 kmh produces only 3.3 kW to compensate Frr. This 3.3 kW is the maximum power we can utilize without increasing gas consumption. There is no way to get 4.8 kW out of 3.3 kW.<br />
4.8 kW is the power harvested from one car to make this 200 kW per 1000 m of road claim true. This estimate was for the piezo generator efficiency coefficient = 1.<br />
(In reality, if it is 0.5 &#8211; 0.7, we&#8217;ll need to take about 8 kW instead of 3.3 kW from the car engine which is still not so noticeable).</p>
<p>So my calculation were only to show their claim 200kW per 1000m of single lane without increasing fuel consumption cannot be true.</p>
<p>Potential Energy of gravity cannot be utilized if there is no change in altitude. The gravitational field is a conservative field (see wiki) which means the potential energy difference for a round trip (e.g. from home to work and back) equals 0.</p>
<p>If there was a way to utilize potential energy of a body and the earth that &#8220;sucks&#8221;, there will be no nead in oil, photovoltaic panels, wind power, etc.</p>
<p>I 100% agree with you, there is no science to back fossil fuel industry. Even nuclear energy (that is well developed and much cheaper) produces less pollution, but oil guys are in power.</p>
<p>When I mentioned swine flu, I meant the forged statistics about the mortality from it. Instead of figures for the swine flu itself, they used combined flu and pneumonia statistics just to make people pay for the vaccine (which appeared to be inefficient and even dangerous, as it contains lead and something else).</p>
<p>About this &#8220;researcher has announced a possible future technology&#8221;. I watched the innowattech video <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-GxSFSy3w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-GxSFSy3w</a>, where the guy says &#8220;200 kWh per hour&#8221;(3:34). I speak and understand Hebrew, and he really said so; it wasn&#8217;t a bad translation. A technically educated person would say &#8220;200 kW&#8221;.</p>
<p>In the video they say &#8220;without adversely affecting vehicle fuel efficiency or the durability of roadway&#8221; (4:12). Of course, as you noticed, the road durability cannot be the same as in case there are no piezo blocks installed under asphalt. These separate blocks will contribute to cracks production, especially on their borders. For their purposes the words &#8220;noticeably&#8221; and &#8220;adversely&#8221; are same.</p>
<p>The technology will be implemented, I think, just because it is a way of making money. Research grants, good deals, etc. Who cares it will lead to increased oil consumption and atmosphere pollution. </p>
<p>If you are interested in knowing where this &#8220;free&#8221; energy is coming from (as I see it), I can explain, though it&#8217;s not so easy without making drawings and diagrams. I didn&#8217;t expect anybody would respond to my post, but it&#8217;s hard to keep silent when I see something is going wrong.</p>
<p>When I tried to post a similar comment on innowattech channel, they simply moderated it out without proving I&#8217;m wrong. It&#8217;s an indication they have no objections.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice calculation, but Frr is horizontal, and Prr is horizontal.  Piezo effect captured in vertical axis.  F=mg is thus 1000 x 9.8 = 9800 N.  The energy captured is converted Potential Energy, not horizontal kinetic energy.  as long as the earth sucks, it will be available.  As to the previous &quot;scams&quot; - 1st, it is apples and oranges.  2nd, the scams are the attacks by the fossil fuel industry to try to discredit other peer reviewed science.  Where is the science - peer reviewed - to back the oil and coal industries.  Where is the &quot;clean coal&quot; technology they say exists (I personally know of one, been it has not been rolled out yet).  As far as the swine flu, we were lucky that it was not worse.  When the predictions were made, how could the scientists determine that it was close enough to earlier flu to make the 30+ population immune?  If it had been as virulent as the post WWI flu, which my mother remembers surviving, would their predictions have been off?  While I agree that many scams exist, to label this as one, simply because a researcher has announced a possible future technology, is short sighted.  I happen to live a couple of miles from Huffman Prairie, where the Wright brothers perfected controlled flight, despite the accusations of a &quot;scam&quot; by others.  It took them six or seven years after Kitty Hawk to do it.  Then they had to go to France to get the world&#039;s attention - to avoid the ridicule of those in the US.  Who knows if this technology will ever be implemented.  I question the economics of putting the devices in roads, especially in cold climates that destroy roads with freezing and thawing, more than the energy equations involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice calculation, but Frr is horizontal, and Prr is horizontal.  Piezo effect captured in vertical axis.  F=mg is thus 1000 x 9.8 = 9800 N.  The energy captured is converted Potential Energy, not horizontal kinetic energy.  as long as the earth sucks, it will be available.  As to the previous &#8220;scams&#8221; &#8211; 1st, it is apples and oranges.  2nd, the scams are the attacks by the fossil fuel industry to try to discredit other peer reviewed science.  Where is the science &#8211; peer reviewed &#8211; to back the oil and coal industries.  Where is the &#8220;clean coal&#8221; technology they say exists (I personally know of one, been it has not been rolled out yet).  As far as the swine flu, we were lucky that it was not worse.  When the predictions were made, how could the scientists determine that it was close enough to earlier flu to make the 30+ population immune?  If it had been as virulent as the post WWI flu, which my mother remembers surviving, would their predictions have been off?  While I agree that many scams exist, to label this as one, simply because a researcher has announced a possible future technology, is short sighted.  I happen to live a couple of miles from Huffman Prairie, where the Wright brothers perfected controlled flight, despite the accusations of a &#8220;scam&#8221; by others.  It took them six or seven years after Kitty Hawk to do it.  Then they had to go to France to get the world&#8217;s attention &#8211; to avoid the ridicule of those in the US.  Who knows if this technology will ever be implemented.  I question the economics of putting the devices in roads, especially in cold climates that destroy roads with freezing and thawing, more than the energy equations involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s make some rough calculations.
 
The force of rolling resistance can be calculated by:

Frr = Crr Nf
 
where

Frr is the rolling resistance force, 
Crr is the dimensionless rolling resistance coefficient or coefficient of rolling friction (CRF), and 
Nf is the normal force.
Crr for regular tire against a concrete road = 0.01 - 0.015.
 
If we have a car with mass = 1000 kg, the force of rolling resistance will be:
 
       Frr = Crr   m g = 0.015 x 1000 x 9.8 = 147 (N)
 
The power required to compensate the rolling resistance can be found:
 
       Prr = Frr S / t = Frr V       where V is the speed. For V = 80 km/h we have:
 
       Prr = 147 x 80 x 1000 / 3600 = 3267 (W) = 3.3 kW
 
&quot;About 60% of the power required to cruise at highway speeds is taken up overcoming air drag, and this increases very quickly at high speed.&quot; ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient ). Let&#039;s try to confirm this statement using a different reference.
 
&quot;A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag.&quot; ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics))
 
We can see that Prr = 3.3 kW and Pair = 7.5 kW are in good agreement with this 60% estimation. That means, we can consider the calculated Prr = 3.3 kW to be reliable enough for our farther findings.
 
From the original article we have 200 kW per 1000 m of one way road. Let’s find how much power is harvested from one car.
Let the following distance to be as allowed by traffic regulations 5 x CarLength = 5 x 4 = 20 (m). The simultaneously present car&#039;s number on the 1000 m road segment will be:
 
     n = 1000 / (20 + 4) = 42
 
The power collected from one car is P / n = 200 / 42 = 4.8 kW
 
We can see that this power exceeds the power of rolling resistance (3.3 kW) that is the only source we can take energy from without stealing. That means, even if we convert all the energy that is lost on the tire hysteresis, rubber to concrete friction, and vibrations originated by tires running over the surface of the road, there should be no more than 3.3 kW. Note that this &quot;technology&quot; does not utilize the air waves produced by moving cars; we can talk only about the rolling resistance. And of course, there is no efficient way to utilize the thermal energy of rubber deformation and tire-surface friction.
 
This simple estimate shows there is no way to get 200 kW energy per 1000 m of a piezo road without stealing from cars. If we use this technology to decelerate cars in front of stop signs only, in the future, when electric cars will be in majority, the energy that suppose to return to the battery will be stolen. 

Why we won&#039;t notice this stealing? - Just because the aerodynamic drag is almost twice greater than the rolling resistance and we have powerful engines. An additional 40-50% resistance will result in power consumption 16 kW versus 11 kW. Not a big deal, assuming a contemporary engines have 75 kW (100 horsepower) or even more power. 

We are witnessing one more scam was just born, following the ones about global warming, swine flu mortality disinformation, and so on. And these previous scams were backed up also by scientists graduated from the best universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s make some rough calculations.</p>
<p>The force of rolling resistance can be calculated by:</p>
<p>Frr = Crr Nf</p>
<p>where</p>
<p>Frr is the rolling resistance force,<br />
Crr is the dimensionless rolling resistance coefficient or coefficient of rolling friction (CRF), and<br />
Nf is the normal force.<br />
Crr for regular tire against a concrete road = 0.01 &#8211; 0.015.</p>
<p>If we have a car with mass = 1000 kg, the force of rolling resistance will be:</p>
<p>       Frr = Crr   m g = 0.015 x 1000 x 9.8 = 147 (N)</p>
<p>The power required to compensate the rolling resistance can be found:</p>
<p>       Prr = Frr S / t = Frr V       where V is the speed. For V = 80 km/h we have:</p>
<p>       Prr = 147 x 80 x 1000 / 3600 = 3267 (W) = 3.3 kW</p>
<p>&#8220;About 60% of the power required to cruise at highway speeds is taken up overcoming air drag, and this increases very quickly at high speed.&#8221; ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient</a> ). Let&#8217;s try to confirm this statement using a different reference.</p>
<p>&#8220;A car cruising on a highway at 50 mph (80 km/h) may require only 10 horsepower (7.5 kW) to overcome air drag.&#8221; ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics))" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics))</a></p>
<p>We can see that Prr = 3.3 kW and Pair = 7.5 kW are in good agreement with this 60% estimation. That means, we can consider the calculated Prr = 3.3 kW to be reliable enough for our farther findings.</p>
<p>From the original article we have 200 kW per 1000 m of one way road. Let’s find how much power is harvested from one car.<br />
Let the following distance to be as allowed by traffic regulations 5 x CarLength = 5 x 4 = 20 (m). The simultaneously present car&#8217;s number on the 1000 m road segment will be:</p>
<p>     n = 1000 / (20 + 4) = 42</p>
<p>The power collected from one car is P / n = 200 / 42 = 4.8 kW</p>
<p>We can see that this power exceeds the power of rolling resistance (3.3 kW) that is the only source we can take energy from without stealing. That means, even if we convert all the energy that is lost on the tire hysteresis, rubber to concrete friction, and vibrations originated by tires running over the surface of the road, there should be no more than 3.3 kW. Note that this &#8220;technology&#8221; does not utilize the air waves produced by moving cars; we can talk only about the rolling resistance. And of course, there is no efficient way to utilize the thermal energy of rubber deformation and tire-surface friction.</p>
<p>This simple estimate shows there is no way to get 200 kW energy per 1000 m of a piezo road without stealing from cars. If we use this technology to decelerate cars in front of stop signs only, in the future, when electric cars will be in majority, the energy that suppose to return to the battery will be stolen. </p>
<p>Why we won&#8217;t notice this stealing? &#8211; Just because the aerodynamic drag is almost twice greater than the rolling resistance and we have powerful engines. An additional 40-50% resistance will result in power consumption 16 kW versus 11 kW. Not a big deal, assuming a contemporary engines have 75 kW (100 horsepower) or even more power. </p>
<p>We are witnessing one more scam was just born, following the ones about global warming, swine flu mortality disinformation, and so on. And these previous scams were backed up also by scientists graduated from the best universities.</p>
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		<title>By: janet northam</title>
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		<dc:creator>janet northam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 06:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several years ago the sunday chronicle had an article about a car that produces electricity as you drive. When the car gets home you plug it in and it powers the home. Not surprisingly the article can&#039;t be found. I do want to make a point about solar energy. If all flat surfaces were covered with solar shingles, car ports, homes and malls, even warehouses, that sun would be used instead of causing global warming. If we all drive to work in an electric car to our LOCAL solar shingle or panel factory we will not be causing any pollution. That means we should be reversing pollution and warming at twice the speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several years ago the sunday chronicle had an article about a car that produces electricity as you drive. When the car gets home you plug it in and it powers the home. Not surprisingly the article can&#8217;t be found. I do want to make a point about solar energy. If all flat surfaces were covered with solar shingles, car ports, homes and malls, even warehouses, that sun would be used instead of causing global warming. If we all drive to work in an electric car to our LOCAL solar shingle or panel factory we will not be causing any pollution. That means we should be reversing pollution and warming at twice the speed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-10604</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 17:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very first comment by Gary is correct. You can never get energy from nothing. It goes against the most basic laws of Physics. Has anyone heard of Newton ? The energy that the cars disperse into the road &quot;needs&quot; to happen to allow the cars to move. Any change on the road&#039;s surface (above or below) will affect the vehicle&#039;s performance. Adding very large bumps in the road will worsen a vehicle&#039;s fuel consumption .. correct ? Well, the same mathematical rules apply when adding even microscopic bumps, or squeeze cells etc. etc. Nothing changes, only the numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very first comment by Gary is correct. You can never get energy from nothing. It goes against the most basic laws of Physics. Has anyone heard of Newton ? The energy that the cars disperse into the road &#8220;needs&#8221; to happen to allow the cars to move. Any change on the road&#8217;s surface (above or below) will affect the vehicle&#8217;s performance. Adding very large bumps in the road will worsen a vehicle&#8217;s fuel consumption .. correct ? Well, the same mathematical rules apply when adding even microscopic bumps, or squeeze cells etc. etc. Nothing changes, only the numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Vilas Khadse</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-9810</link>
		<dc:creator>Vilas Khadse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 03:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, When you are talking about teleporting, in first place there will not be any need of roads since travel in that case will happen by teleportation..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, When you are talking about teleporting, in first place there will not be any need of roads since travel in that case will happen by teleportation..</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-9799</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of creating energy harvesting systems is in its very first phase... in the far future we will program the roads to build themselves like dna builds our bodies... these roads will grow to maximize power production... and teleport the power right to the cars.

People will get paid to drive and get paid for parking !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of creating energy harvesting systems is in its very first phase&#8230; in the far future we will program the roads to build themselves like dna builds our bodies&#8230; these roads will grow to maximize power production&#8230; and teleport the power right to the cars.</p>
<p>People will get paid to drive and get paid for parking !</p>
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		<title>By: newman</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-9423</link>
		<dc:creator>newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome idea to use one of the biggest consumers of energy to help off set some of it&#039;s energy. Just starting to learn alternative energy can lessen the over all impact of our consumption of natural resources. Wondering if any other way to use cars to generate energy are in the making would like to know more about the out put of energy that can be made and how can it be harness to be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome idea to use one of the biggest consumers of energy to help off set some of it&#8217;s energy. Just starting to learn alternative energy can lessen the over all impact of our consumption of natural resources. Wondering if any other way to use cars to generate energy are in the making would like to know more about the out put of energy that can be made and how can it be harness to be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Tsvi Bisk</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-9301</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsvi Bisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me that so many people feel qualified to comment on something they themselves know nothing about.  This experiment may or may not succeed -- it is still an experiment and has just entered the pilot stage.

The people behind it are all Ph.Ds in material science, physics etc. from some of the best universities in the world and are senior research scientists at the Technion and specialize in various aspects of Piezoelectric technology.

The pilot itself was approved by Israel&#039;s chief scientist as well as other scientific factors who examined the data and thought it had merit.

It may yet prove to have no merit -- but these offhanded know-it-all comments are beyond belief. Lets wait and see what the EROEI (energy return on energy invested) is in regards to the financial ROI and then we shall see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me that so many people feel qualified to comment on something they themselves know nothing about.  This experiment may or may not succeed &#8212; it is still an experiment and has just entered the pilot stage.</p>
<p>The people behind it are all Ph.Ds in material science, physics etc. from some of the best universities in the world and are senior research scientists at the Technion and specialize in various aspects of Piezoelectric technology.</p>
<p>The pilot itself was approved by Israel&#8217;s chief scientist as well as other scientific factors who examined the data and thought it had merit.</p>
<p>It may yet prove to have no merit &#8212; but these offhanded know-it-all comments are beyond belief. Lets wait and see what the EROEI (energy return on energy invested) is in regards to the financial ROI and then we shall see.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@slaps If they did as you said and use it as resistance mechanism it will bring down the efficiency of common hybrids which gain by slowing themselve in such situations. Making it less of a pure gain and more of a partial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@slaps If they did as you said and use it as resistance mechanism it will bring down the efficiency of common hybrids which gain by slowing themselve in such situations. Making it less of a pure gain and more of a partial.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need to know: The effect on these due to weather pressures, ice, expansion and crunch tolerance. Cost for all installation and future repairs. Rarity of materials in the all ascpect of the process forming the product. Establishing a competitive product climate to solidify pricing.

There should be a 2 kilometer slab for demonstration and pricing before anything is spread and dispensed and sold both mentally and physically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need to know: The effect on these due to weather pressures, ice, expansion and crunch tolerance. Cost for all installation and future repairs. Rarity of materials in the all ascpect of the process forming the product. Establishing a competitive product climate to solidify pricing.</p>
<p>There should be a 2 kilometer slab for demonstration and pricing before anything is spread and dispensed and sold both mentally and physically.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WiseEnergy, I beg to differ.  The force of the cars drive train is horizontal to move the car forward.  The piezo device turns vertical movement into electricity.  The only vertical force here is gravity.  Those that think the device would create resistance for the car to overcome need to consider that a pebble on the road is drastically more resistant than the piezo device under the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WiseEnergy, I beg to differ.  The force of the cars drive train is horizontal to move the car forward.  The piezo device turns vertical movement into electricity.  The only vertical force here is gravity.  Those that think the device would create resistance for the car to overcome need to consider that a pebble on the road is drastically more resistant than the piezo device under the road.</p>
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		<title>By: WiseEnergy</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-8189</link>
		<dc:creator>WiseEnergy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn,

You are mistaken when you claim that the energy comes from gravity. Any energy transferred to such a system comes from the car&#039;s movement, and that movement is created by the car&#039;s fuel. The car must become less efficient as energy transfers to the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>You are mistaken when you claim that the energy comes from gravity. Any energy transferred to such a system comes from the car&#8217;s movement, and that movement is created by the car&#8217;s fuel. The car must become less efficient as energy transfers to the road.</p>
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		<title>By: TimMex</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/produce-electricity-while-you-drive/#comment-8172</link>
		<dc:creator>TimMex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would work in road sections where cars need to slow down anyway - similar to hybrids that generate energy in deceleration.  Like a windmill on your car that pops up whenever you hit the brakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would work in road sections where cars need to slow down anyway &#8211; similar to hybrids that generate energy in deceleration.  Like a windmill on your car that pops up whenever you hit the brakes.</p>
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