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	<title>Comments on: Biofuel as a Jet Fuel Alternative?</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle Anchustegui</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6994</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Anchustegui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am working with a project that takes waste- garbage, animal waste sewage... and turns it into jet fuel, auto fuel, and power. This proven technology will relieve us completely of our dependency on foreign oil. 

The project is looking for investors- site visits and visits with the scientists that have created this are available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working with a project that takes waste- garbage, animal waste sewage&#8230; and turns it into jet fuel, auto fuel, and power. This proven technology will relieve us completely of our dependency on foreign oil. </p>
<p>The project is looking for investors- site visits and visits with the scientists that have created this are available.</p>
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		<title>By: Boneheaded1</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6992</link>
		<dc:creator>Boneheaded1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certainly not a cure all but if it can &quot;refresh&quot; the land for the food crops and have some other benefit besides, then what&#039;s bad about it.

There will be no ONE magic cure-all for our fossil fuel addiction.  But it will take many different cures.  Electric energy via; wind, solar, wave, tidal, geo-thermal and chemical energy via; ethanol, bio-diesel, bio-gas and bio-mass are ALL pieces of the puzzle.  No single one will replace fossil fuels but together, they can make up the majority of our power source rather than the minority we see today.  The sooner we can realize that and stop waiting for that one magic cure-all, the better the world will be and the faster we can keep our financial resources at home instead of sending it oversees.  

I understand the whole idea of economies of scale, but our energy production can no longer follow that rule.  Use what can be produced locally, locally.  If there is leftover to export, then export.

And the food/fuels debate; let the market settle it.  Too much money for food means less money for energy, to much for energy means less for food.  A balance will be found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly not a cure all but if it can &#8220;refresh&#8221; the land for the food crops and have some other benefit besides, then what&#8217;s bad about it.</p>
<p>There will be no ONE magic cure-all for our fossil fuel addiction.  But it will take many different cures.  Electric energy via; wind, solar, wave, tidal, geo-thermal and chemical energy via; ethanol, bio-diesel, bio-gas and bio-mass are ALL pieces of the puzzle.  No single one will replace fossil fuels but together, they can make up the majority of our power source rather than the minority we see today.  The sooner we can realize that and stop waiting for that one magic cure-all, the better the world will be and the faster we can keep our financial resources at home instead of sending it oversees.  </p>
<p>I understand the whole idea of economies of scale, but our energy production can no longer follow that rule.  Use what can be produced locally, locally.  If there is leftover to export, then export.</p>
<p>And the food/fuels debate; let the market settle it.  Too much money for food means less money for energy, to much for energy means less for food.  A balance will be found.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Jumpsuit</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6989</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Jumpsuit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny how Dave Yates and Chris Derudder are quick to jump in front of the speeding bus and decree BIOFUELS are not alt energy!!! Yet readily book plane tickets and pollute the delicate upper atmosphere with partially unburned kerosene and noxious fumes, were it is tremendously more harmful than from tailpipe emissions. 

Biofuels from corn made into ethanol may not be the answer for the average consumer who can easily buy a battery powered hybrid to replace their SUV guzzler, but in the age of jet planes, there is no suitable replacement for the energy required to generate the power required to lift a plane into the sky.

Biofuels replacing diesel and kerosene make sense as they are a one to one conversion (most times from plant to tank without too much modification).  In addition jets, planes, trains, tanks and trucks require more energy for combustion and have a longer replacement cycle than consumer vehicles making investments in alternatives to fossil fuels for these applications necessary, responsible and beneficial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny how Dave Yates and Chris Derudder are quick to jump in front of the speeding bus and decree BIOFUELS are not alt energy!!! Yet readily book plane tickets and pollute the delicate upper atmosphere with partially unburned kerosene and noxious fumes, were it is tremendously more harmful than from tailpipe emissions. </p>
<p>Biofuels from corn made into ethanol may not be the answer for the average consumer who can easily buy a battery powered hybrid to replace their SUV guzzler, but in the age of jet planes, there is no suitable replacement for the energy required to generate the power required to lift a plane into the sky.</p>
<p>Biofuels replacing diesel and kerosene make sense as they are a one to one conversion (most times from plant to tank without too much modification).  In addition jets, planes, trains, tanks and trucks require more energy for combustion and have a longer replacement cycle than consumer vehicles making investments in alternatives to fossil fuels for these applications necessary, responsible and beneficial.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Gunzburg</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6982</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Gunzburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some fact about growing feedstocks for biofuels. Crops will grow on marginal land; whether they actually produce sufficient feedstock is questionable. Jatropha is a classic example of a weed that grows on marginal land, yet it yields are quite low when grown on this land. A recent publication in PNAS found that the water footprint of Jatropha was 20KL of water for one litre of oil. Soy was significantly less.

Having grown mustard seed for use in biofuel production; you get out what you put in. You grown plants with no fertilizer, you end up with a lower yield than a fertilized crop. In summary there is no such thing as a free lunch.

If you want a farmer to grow the crop then the yield must be financially viable compared to another crop. Farmers may be altruistic but they also understand economics. What we should be focusing on is turning waste streams into biofuel feedstocks. We currently treat industrial wastes from food processing and produce biodiesel and animal feed. There is more than enough crap floating around in the world for us to start processing into waste and I can proudly say my company is a significantly little crap converter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some fact about growing feedstocks for biofuels. Crops will grow on marginal land; whether they actually produce sufficient feedstock is questionable. Jatropha is a classic example of a weed that grows on marginal land, yet it yields are quite low when grown on this land. A recent publication in PNAS found that the water footprint of Jatropha was 20KL of water for one litre of oil. Soy was significantly less.</p>
<p>Having grown mustard seed for use in biofuel production; you get out what you put in. You grown plants with no fertilizer, you end up with a lower yield than a fertilized crop. In summary there is no such thing as a free lunch.</p>
<p>If you want a farmer to grow the crop then the yield must be financially viable compared to another crop. Farmers may be altruistic but they also understand economics. What we should be focusing on is turning waste streams into biofuel feedstocks. We currently treat industrial wastes from food processing and produce biodiesel and animal feed. There is more than enough crap floating around in the world for us to start processing into waste and I can proudly say my company is a significantly little crap converter.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Ping</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6974</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis Ping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that the problem with all these biofuels is that while we can get to europe faster, people in other countries starve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that the problem with all these biofuels is that while we can get to europe faster, people in other countries starve.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Engler</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6973</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Engler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we should grow more cane sugar in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we should grow more cane sugar in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ibrahim Syaharuddin</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6972</link>
		<dc:creator>Ibrahim Syaharuddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biofuel industry development is becoming the mainstream development in the energy sector of the whole world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biofuel industry development is becoming the mainstream development in the energy sector of the whole world.</p>
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		<title>By: John Boston</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6971</link>
		<dc:creator>John Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American food manufacturers put high fructose corn syrup into most products instead of cane sugar due to insanely high tariffs we have on imported cane sugar. These tariffs are in place simply to keep the price of corn high.

Corn syrup is one of the greatest threats to the health of the American people. Perhaps we should use corn for more biofuel , and less for food, and reduce the tariffs on incoming cane sugar to keep food production prices reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American food manufacturers put high fructose corn syrup into most products instead of cane sugar due to insanely high tariffs we have on imported cane sugar. These tariffs are in place simply to keep the price of corn high.</p>
<p>Corn syrup is one of the greatest threats to the health of the American people. Perhaps we should use corn for more biofuel , and less for food, and reduce the tariffs on incoming cane sugar to keep food production prices reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Pendergast</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6970</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Pendergast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question for Dave + Chris -- so what would be your solution to the situation? And the answer should be &quot;we need to drive less, fly less, use less&quot;. &quot;alternative -- offering or expressing a choice&quot;= that is the thought process that should applied here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question for Dave + Chris &#8212; so what would be your solution to the situation? And the answer should be &#8220;we need to drive less, fly less, use less&#8221;. &#8220;alternative &#8212; offering or expressing a choice&#8221;= that is the thought process that should applied here.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Alverson</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6969</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Alverson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biofuels from weeds do not pose a serious threat to food production. They grow on non-arable land they have 2 to 3 week turnover so you can get more than one crop per season. It is not a permanent solution but is a very good start to energy independence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biofuels from weeds do not pose a serious threat to food production. They grow on non-arable land they have 2 to 3 week turnover so you can get more than one crop per season. It is not a permanent solution but is a very good start to energy independence.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6968</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bio-fuels don&#039;t have to be made from food sources of course, nor do they need to consume new arable land necessarily. They do burn cleaner than traditional diesel and they get us off carbon-based non-renewables. Every little bit helps. Not the solution but a hugely positive step - particularly for air travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bio-fuels don&#8217;t have to be made from food sources of course, nor do they need to consume new arable land necessarily. They do burn cleaner than traditional diesel and they get us off carbon-based non-renewables. Every little bit helps. Not the solution but a hugely positive step &#8211; particularly for air travel.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6967</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real change will have to be in the mindset of people used to our power sources coming from concentrated fuels. Gas, coal etc to less centralized sources which will be better for networks too. Small solar locally or in home. Tidal etc and better insulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real change will have to be in the mindset of people used to our power sources coming from concentrated fuels. Gas, coal etc to less centralized sources which will be better for networks too. Small solar locally or in home. Tidal etc and better insulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Butler</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6966</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biofuel is a great stepping stone towards clean and sustainable energy sources. Unfortunately for it to be a sustainable alternative power source over the long run, we likely would need to process most of our food sources grown in the Midwest. There just isn&#039;t enough plant matter to meet the current demand. I encourage the use of bioful (especially if it is being made from a waste stream) and applaud the effort, but this is just one small piece to the puzzle. 

We need to stop being the typical American energy leaches, cut down our energy demands, and explore all options. There is no one &quot;golden egg&quot; in this matter. Wind, solo, hydrogen, etc. should all be explored and utilized. Numerous alternative energy sources will be required to replace petroleum. The specific alternative energy source that is used regionally will depend on the specific attributes of that region. For instance, it makes the most scenes for hot, dry, sunny areas to utilize solar, and for windy coastal areas too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biofuel is a great stepping stone towards clean and sustainable energy sources. Unfortunately for it to be a sustainable alternative power source over the long run, we likely would need to process most of our food sources grown in the Midwest. There just isn&#8217;t enough plant matter to meet the current demand. I encourage the use of bioful (especially if it is being made from a waste stream) and applaud the effort, but this is just one small piece to the puzzle. </p>
<p>We need to stop being the typical American energy leaches, cut down our energy demands, and explore all options. There is no one &#8220;golden egg&#8221; in this matter. Wind, solo, hydrogen, etc. should all be explored and utilized. Numerous alternative energy sources will be required to replace petroleum. The specific alternative energy source that is used regionally will depend on the specific attributes of that region. For instance, it makes the most scenes for hot, dry, sunny areas to utilize solar, and for windy coastal areas too.</p>
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		<title>By: William Welton</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6965</link>
		<dc:creator>William Welton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a rush for biofuels; it&#039;s a rush for alternative energy. May the best source win. There&#039;s really no need to be paranoid about things just yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a rush for biofuels; it&#8217;s a rush for alternative energy. May the best source win. There&#8217;s really no need to be paranoid about things just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy Marie Neferet Iwneferi</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6964</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy Marie Neferet Iwneferi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we, as Americans, are in any danger of eating too little.</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6963</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief. First &quot;eat or drive&quot;. Now &quot;eat or fly&quot;.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Derudder</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6962</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Derudder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Dave: biofuel is NOT an alternative energy source!</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Yates</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6961</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m concerned about this rush for biofuels. I understand that it might look attractive at first, but it&#039;s going to divert a lot of land away from food crops, leading to food shortages+ price increases. Even if the crops are grown on marginal land,that will increase the carbon footprint of Camelina sativa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m concerned about this rush for biofuels. I understand that it might look attractive at first, but it&#8217;s going to divert a lot of land away from food crops, leading to food shortages+ price increases. Even if the crops are grown on marginal land,that will increase the carbon footprint of Camelina sativa.</p>
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		<title>By: Harpal Singh grewal</title>
		<link>http://www.alternative-energy-news.info/biofuel-as-a-jet-fuel-alternative/#comment-6959</link>
		<dc:creator>Harpal Singh grewal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very encouraging to read that we can wash clothes with one cup of water. Alternate energy era is going to bring new surprises. In India the sucking pest for mustard was controlled by burning mustard oil up wind &amp; also in case of late rains, it was conceived that by cooking pan cakes in mustard oil brings rain,these things must have some scientific background which was never explained to the masses. If we back track this process &amp; study it in the light of today&#039;s fossil fuel burning in the air, we know the problems faced by us in the present times (pollution). Learning from alternate energy site about the Jets burning veg oil is very encouraging &amp; it is bound to bring positive results. We at Heavenly Farms have developed a wood gasifier which   pays for its running in other words it produces electricity for almost free of cost if we consider to evaluate the bi-products it produces (charcoal, coal, bio-oil, heat energy, cooking gas &amp; electricity. We are using used petrol &amp; diesel engines.  Seeing is believing, one unit is under testing at IIP (Indian Institute of Petroleum Dehradun) another unit has been handed over to IIT Ahmedabad for exports to Germany. It is simple machine compact in size, easily operable, easy to handle/operate, easy maintained, cost effective &amp; mobile. Any body is welcome to visit us &amp; have demonstration or see it running at the farms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very encouraging to read that we can wash clothes with one cup of water. Alternate energy era is going to bring new surprises. In India the sucking pest for mustard was controlled by burning mustard oil up wind &#038; also in case of late rains, it was conceived that by cooking pan cakes in mustard oil brings rain,these things must have some scientific background which was never explained to the masses. If we back track this process &#038; study it in the light of today&#8217;s fossil fuel burning in the air, we know the problems faced by us in the present times (pollution). Learning from alternate energy site about the Jets burning veg oil is very encouraging &#038; it is bound to bring positive results. We at Heavenly Farms have developed a wood gasifier which   pays for its running in other words it produces electricity for almost free of cost if we consider to evaluate the bi-products it produces (charcoal, coal, bio-oil, heat energy, cooking gas &#038; electricity. We are using used petrol &#038; diesel engines.  Seeing is believing, one unit is under testing at IIP (Indian Institute of Petroleum Dehradun) another unit has been handed over to IIT Ahmedabad for exports to Germany. It is simple machine compact in size, easily operable, easy to handle/operate, easy maintained, cost effective &#038; mobile. Any body is welcome to visit us &#038; have demonstration or see it running at the farms.</p>
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		<title>By: justwatching</title>
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		<dc:creator>justwatching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough the average age of farmers in the U.S. is over 55 years. Most of the family farms have been ruined by the death tax and a world wide drought so most of their children have left the farm. If you think government and large corporate farms will work just ask the people of the former Soviet Union. We need real farmers now, not farm workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough the average age of farmers in the U.S. is over 55 years. Most of the family farms have been ruined by the death tax and a world wide drought so most of their children have left the farm. If you think government and large corporate farms will work just ask the people of the former Soviet Union. We need real farmers now, not farm workers.</p>
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